Focus Turbo

[Brinker]

Im gettin a turbo for my 2001 ford focus Zx3 and kinda need a little help. I know turbonetics makes the turbo i want, but beyond that im lost

[Skullet]

theres a lot more involved than just boltin a turbo onto ur car man... upgrade fuel system, internals, drill into ur oil pan for an oil line or two, find a route for all the new piping...

[Brinker]

I've got an upgraded fuel system, and im not bad with a wrench. I just need a few pointers to help me movin with this. I know i should get an intercooler or somethin

[Strtrcril87]

It'd help to also invest in an SAFC. Plus when everythings installed you'll want to take it to a shop that can tune it for you.

Stock internals wont handle more than maybe 8psi which I dont think would even be worth it, it'd be easier to just have a supercharger setup.

[Brinker]

Im still wantin a turbo. The internals thing isn't a big deal for me. The car is more or less a project for me and it's something im taking to UTI when i go off to school there i just wanna get something extra in it

[standard235]

You better get that after you got destroyed by my Cavalier :)

What upgrades do you have to your fuel system?

Usually, fuel pump and injectors and then something to compensate for the bigger injectors and a tune for fuel. Low boost levels, you may be safe with stock internals. For longetivity and fun, you should build the bottom end.

It all depends on what exactly you are looking for. And a turbo kit is a little different than wrenching if you are DIY. Turbo, wastegate (if not internally gated), manifold (again, if externally gated then you need one with a flange for the WG), downpipe to meet up with current exhaust. 3" turboback would be best :)

FMIC (Front Mount Intercooler), charge piping, and an intake for the turbo. Not to mention all the oil and coolant lines for the turbo.


Tired and rambling. Like ^^ said, a SC would be easier unless you want to do forged internals and build the top end as well...

[sonicboom141]

Is your car maf or map based? maf based systems dont like safc to well. Has anyone done testing for your stock blocks on when around internals start to fail power wise? What turbo are you going with? Can it fit? Do you have an adapter for the manifold to turbo? Is it internal or externally gated? What injectors/fuel pump, might not be able to just run a safc for tuning. Do you have room to run a intercooler+pipes? Do you have any oil lines or coolant lines if the turbo is not just oil cooled? Are you going to fab the pipes/exhaust/downpipe etc..? Or is this a full 'bolt on' kit? Whatever the turbo kit is, think about twice that in terms of money.

[Strtrcril87]

Very good questions :)

[standard235]

I suggest you head over to FocusFanatics.com

Look around and see what other people are doing. Most i have seen is 600hp and he ran a 10.8 which is meh.

Although it wouldn't be as fast, it'd be cooler if it was a high compression N/A engine with a big cam and whatnot in it. :)

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196635
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193007

[Brinker]

O zack. I wasn't racing you. I dont race in town. If you wanna we'll catch the light on 24 one day and i'll race you there. Thanks for the forum though

[Brinker]

Its maf based. Its a turbonetics T3 turbo. The car has been set up for a turbo. I just need to get the parts to install the turbo

[SloBase]

lol @ you not racing in town. I see you flooring it all over the place.

[Sohcgt96]

Its maf based. Its a turbonetics T3 turbo. The car has been set up for a turbo. I just need to get the parts to install the turbo

What exactly do you mean "set up" for a turbo?

You seem to be talking as if the turbocharger head unit itself is all you need, do you have a partially installed kit with no turbo or something here?

[Brinker]

The guy i bought it from was gunna put one in and had started on putting all the required parts in, but his wife made him get rid or the car so i bought it and im gunna finish it

[Brinker]

Im not quite floorin it.close thought lol. I dont like the thought of side streets and racing in town. If im racin its on a highway where no one is gunn whip out in front of me from a side street

[racedude1984]

what size t3 tubo you getting? how much boost you wanting to run? what kind of manifold you getting? what kind of wastegate (spring rate)? what fuel pressure you gonna run?

[Sohcgt96]

The guy i bought it from was gunna put one in and had started on putting all the required parts in, but his wife made him get rid or the car so i bought it and im gunna finish it

OK fine but I'm looking for specifics.

Does it have a partially installed kit or was he trying to piece it together?

Does it have a turbo manifold already on it or do you have one thats just not installed? Do you have a downpipe ready to go on the car or will that need to be made?

Do you have an intercooler and the cold side piping?

Do you have a wastegate (if so, what?) or are you going to use an internally gated turbo? Is your header set up for whichever you plan on using?

Do you have a boost controller, if so, what?

Do you have a set of larger injectors, a FMU, a larger fuel pump, what is done to your fuel system? Stock isn't likely to cut it.

What are you going to use to tune the ECM after you're done?

Are you going to run a blow through or draw though MAF? Have you researched how well the stock ones cope with forced induction.

If you don't have an answer for all those questions you're not ready to install a turbo yet.

[racedude1984]

OK fine but I'm looking for specifics.

Does it have a partially installed kit or was he trying to piece it together?

Does it have a turbo manifold already on it or do you have one thats just not installed? Do you have a downpipe ready to go on the car or will that need to be made?

Do you have an intercooler and the cold side piping?

Do you have a wastegate (if so, what?) or are you going to use an internally gated turbo? Is your header set up for whichever you plan on using?

Do you have a boost controller, if so, what?

Do you have a set of larger injectors, a FMU, a larger fuel pump, what is done to your fuel system? Stock isn't likely to cut it.

What are you going to use to tune the ECM after you're done?

Are you going to run a blow through or draw though MAF? Have you researched how well the stock ones cope with forced induction.

If you don't have an answer for all those questions you're not ready to install a turbo yet.


pretty much what I was asking I was too lazy to type it all. The biggest thing is getting enough fuel.... just saying it's ok itsn't enough... with out the right amount of fuel you can get knock... alot of things to look at.... Alot of people start out with like 8 psi..... but then usually the clutch likes to go with the amount of tourqe that is created....

If you want to piece it together then more power to you just don't throw a partial kit on....
Just remeber you will need to monitor A/f with a wideband and something to map the fuel out.

[SloBase]

Im not quite floorin it.close thought lol. I dont like the thought of side streets and racing in town. If im racin its on a highway where no one is gunn whip out in front of me from a side street

I'm going to tell your dad!

[standard235]

Its maf based. Its a turbonetics T3 turbo. The car has been set up for a turbo. I just need to get the parts to install the turbo

What do you mean it's set up for a turbo? You need a different header and downpipe. You'd need something to tune with....

It's far from bolt on boost dude...

LOL at SloBase tattling :)

You going to tell my dad too?


I wanna run you for real before you turbo it :)

[cool]

Youre best bet is to drain the oil and drive it wide open until it breaks. It will save you the cost of all the turbo parts you still have to buy.

[SloBase]

What do you mean it's set up for a turbo? You need a different header and downpipe. You'd need something to tune with....

It's far from bolt on boost dude...

LOL at SloBase tattling :)

You going to tell my dad too?


I wanna run you for real before you turbo it :)

Yes. Yes I am.

[Brinker]

LOL slobase its not gunna change anything. My dad will tell me not to do it again then ask how fast i was goin and leave it at that.

Its got a different header. I need the downpipe though it wasn't as big as i thought.

It will get enough fuel. Its got a better fuel pump and bigger injectors already in it. Not sure on the size yet, but i'll know soon

[standard235]

Lol I was racing people in my cousin's 1G AWD DSM today :) I think I might save my $$$ and get myself one to go with my TRE Stage 2 Tranny... :)

[Brinker]

Im not a big fan of DSM's. I raced an eclipse today and won. Not by much, but i won. He was kinda shitty with shifting lol

[racedude1984]

I wanna race...

[Sohcgt96]

Its got a different header. I need the downpipe though it wasn't as big as i thought.




If its got a header on it right now, and you're driving it, that's not the right kind for a turbo, and it doesn't technically have a downpipe on it without... having a turbo.

Look man I'm not trying to insult you here, just being realistic. By the way you're talking it just doesn't give me the impression you really know whats up with the car and what is really involved in setting up a turbo system on a car. If you're in over your head you really need to get in touch with people who have done this before and listen to every freakin thing they tell you about what to do and not to do. That's the best thing I can tell you.

[mystryskittle]

^lol and since when is 600hp and 10.8...just "meh"? thats pretty badass for fwd there buddy

[standard235]

^lol and since when is 600hp and 10.8...just "meh"? thats pretty badass for fwd there buddy

:) I know. Nobody but you noticed.

[Brinker]

Hey. Being realistic never got anyone anywhere. I've only done a turbo once and it was on my cousin's integra, and he just said here bolt this on

[standard235]

What you need are the parts. Once you have everything it's ALMOST bolt on.

Find out where to tap oil feed and return on that Zetec. Where do guys run charge piping? Where are you going to tap for your boost gauge and wastegate actuator and all that?

Once you know everything you need to know, you won't be asking here. We may know what is up to turboing a car but there are specifics we don't know about a Focus that FocusFanatics would. :)

[jake11192]

your better off selling the car and buying a second gen eclipse gsx:woop: you cant beat having allwheel drive and a nice turbo for under 7k

[standard235]

Or even better. Get a early 92 dsm. 6 bolt 4g63. 4 bolt rear end.

:) He's not a big fan of DSM's. Said he beat an Eclipse. I know it was a N/A car. No way his Focus would keep with the 4g63t.

[sonicboom141]

Hey. Being realistic never got anyone anywhere. I've only done a turbo once and it was on my cousin's integra, and he just said here bolt this on

LOL

Then why are you asking us what you need if your a pro?
Go turbo your freaking focus so we can watch you fail.

[cool]

your better off selling the car and buying a second gen eclipse gsx:woop: you cant beat having allwheel drive and a nice turbo for under 7k

Yes you can.

[mystryskittle]

:) I know. Nobody but you noticed.

k good lol

[Brinker]

I never said i was a pro. I was just givin parts and told where to put them nothing was explained. I dont want an eclipse or anything like that. Its nothing against them, but i bet once i get this done i'll probly be the only turbo focus locally. I caught the 600hp comment but i just let it go lol

[Skullet]

LOL

Then why are you asking us what you need if your a pro?
Go turbo your freaking focus so we can watch you fail.

another shining example of respect for others... :why:

[Brinker]

^True story. it makes you wonder if ppl on here really care about more than themselves. So im working on finding a route of all the piping for the what do i need to be lookin for in this route. what does it need to be close to or stay away from things like that?

[Samickguy15]

You really need to just hit up a turbo focus forum. Check out other peoples installs, etc.

[Skullet]

^True story. it makes you wonder if ppl on here really care about more than themselves. So im working on finding a route of all the piping for the what do i need to be lookin for in this route. what does it need to be close to or stay away from things like that?

MOST of us arent like that man, dont let idiots scare ya off. theres a lot of knowledge here (not really from me, i just know the basics), but itd be much more beneficial to you to get on a few forums that deal with forced induction exclusively, so you can sort of get a feel for what needs to be done. not sayin to not post here, cuz we always welcome new ppl, its just that the ppl that DO have the info you need have prolly posted the same shit 20 or 30 times on different forums and may not want to post it again. lol... just search thru the tech part of our site for turbo articles, you may find some shit in there, or maybe even howstuffworks.com, not sure how much of a full turbo setup theyd explain.

[Brinker]

Im use to it. Idiots are kinda common lol. I have looked at other turbo forums, and im goin through the tech section. Im just tryin to get little tips that may not be in those forums

[racedude1984]

well the piping might need to to be a custom thing like the piping for the intercooler to the intake and back to the turbo.

Be careful of the crap you get off ebay I seen a guy just get some piping and couplers and none of it fit.

What do you have? like parts wise (all of them)

[Strtrcril87]

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=turbo+focus+forum

[SloBase]

I will sell you an intercooler when I take it off of the RSX. Kinetic large fmic.

[Brinker]

How much for the intercooler?

[sonicboom141]

another shining example of respect for others... :why:

you must have missed everyone elses posts:why:

[Brinker]

Im talking about all of them in general;)

[standard235]

My posts are made of God and win. Thanks. :)

[Brinker]

Gettin an SVT catalouge here soon